Signs removed at Mayo Clinic
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dismal
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Post subject: Signs removed at Mayo Clinic Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 10:25 pm |
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It appears that all the no-guns signs have been removed at Mayo Clinic in Rochester, with the exception of a building that they lease.
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cobb
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Post subject: Re: Signs removed at Mayo Clinic Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 10:52 pm |
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dismal wrote: It appears that all the no-guns signs have been removed at Mayo Clinic in Rochester, with the exception of a building that they lease.
Which building would that be?
I have been going in and out of a building for a few years that Mayo leases and I have never seen any posting at that building, at least that I am aware of. I am just curious as to which building you refer to.
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dismal
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Post subject: Re: Signs removed at Mayo Clinic Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 11:19 pm |
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cobb wrote: Which building would that be? I have been going in and out of a building for a few years that Mayo leases and I have never seen any posting at that building, at least that I am aware of. I am just curious as to which building you refer to.
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westhope
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:30 am |
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I was at Mayo for a cancer check-up on Dec. 19 , parked in the Damon ramp and noticed the signs were down there too. I checked all the doors in the ramp on the way out and none were there. There had been signs up two months before in these areas. I wanted to, but didn't check the other doors in the Mayo or Gonda buildings.
There were signs up before. None now.
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sigman
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:32 am |
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Joined: Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:20 am Posts: 1317 Location: Racine, MN
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I was there today and forgot to look for the signs. I was going to carry anyway.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 11:17 am |
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Any change if one is seeing a doctor and you get to wear The Robe?
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wamps
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Post subject: Mayo signs Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 11:31 pm |
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Joined: Mon Jun 26, 2006 10:13 pm Posts: 85 Location: Rochester
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I have a feeling Mayo will exercise its' right to ask anyone to leave under the MN Trespass law if needed, and that includes permit holders who do not carry concealed. In addition, if you have a medical appt and if you even remotely expect to disrobe I would not carry. The folks at the upper echelon of Mayo are liberal thinkers and would not hesitate to have Mayo Security politely invoke MN Trespass if, in their opinion, permit holders are not discreet. I think it's great the signs are down but it is up to us to see that they stay down. Our actions and their experience with us will be the determining factor. A great plus for them is the fact that they no longer have those ugly signs cluttering up millions of dollars of architecture and landscaping that are so important to their esthetics. It's great their signs are down and I, for one, appreciate their consideration in taking them down.
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sigman
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Post subject: Re: Mayo signs Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 12:02 am |
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wamps wrote: I have a feeling Mayo will exercise its' right to ask anyone to leave under the MN Trespass law if needed, and that includes permit holders who do not carry concealed. In addition, if you have a medical appt and if you even remotely expect to disrobe I would not carry. The folks at the upper echelon of Mayo are liberal thinkers and would not hesitate to have Mayo Security politely invoke MN Trespass if, in their opinion, permit holders are not discreet. I think it's great the signs are down but it is up to us to see that they stay down. Our actions and their experience with us will be the determining factor. A great plus for them is the fact that they no longer have those ugly signs cluttering up millions of dollars of architecture and landscaping that are so important to their esthetics. It's great their signs are down and I, for one, appreciate their consideration in taking them down.
I think anyone who carrys in a place like Mayo should be discreet. That being said, I would rather have my firearm well concealed on my person than left in my vehicle, unless there was a chance that I would have to remove my clothing for an appointment.
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wamps
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Post subject: Re: Mayo signs Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 1:09 am |
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sigman wrote: wamps wrote: I have a feeling Mayo will exercise its' right to ask anyone to leave under the MN Trespass law if needed, and that includes permit holders who do not carry concealed. In addition, if you have a medical appt and if you even remotely expect to disrobe I would not carry. The folks at the upper echelon of Mayo are liberal thinkers and would not hesitate to have Mayo Security politely invoke MN Trespass if, in their opinion, permit holders are not discreet. I think it's great the signs are down but it is up to us to see that they stay down. Our actions and their experience with us will be the determining factor. A great plus for them is the fact that they no longer have those ugly signs cluttering up millions of dollars of architecture and landscaping that are so important to their esthetics. It's great their signs are down and I, for one, appreciate their consideration in taking them down. I think anyone who carrys in a place like Mayo should be discreet. That being said, I would rather have my firearm well concealed on my person than left in my vehicle, unless there was a chance that I would have to remove my clothing for an appointment.
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Dick Unger
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 6:02 am |
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I would imagine Mayo received lots of flak from out of staters, who used to ask in wonderment about all the gun signs in Minnesota. Too, the wealthiest people from all over the world frequent Mayo, and they usually travel with discreet security guards who need to be armed. I bet Mayo never had an issue with any guns but had thousands of inquiries about the signs.
My relatives from ND used to tease me about MN's crazy new law, and I couldn't convince them that ND already had a "shall issue" law for years. Because of the signs they thought MN was more dangerous.
They signs did actually advertise the law; I got my permit immediately, but if I had not, I think the signs would have reminded me every day that I needed to get my permit.
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matt160
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 9:48 am |
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I wonder if the Mayo told Pres. Ford's Secret Service to disarm?
_________________ "Criminals thrive on the indulgence of society's understanding."
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." - Sigmund Freud
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CraigJS
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:34 am |
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If so I wonder what the SS told Mayo to go do??
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:35 am |
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Are we forgetting that the Secret Service is a Federal LE organization and as such, most firearm laws exempt them any way?
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Dick Unger
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 11:12 am |
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plblark wrote: Are we forgetting that the Secret Service is a Federal LE organization and as such, most firearm laws exempt them any way?
The signs don't apply to Minnesota LEO's either. People without permits cannot carry in a public place, so the signs only apply to permit holders that choose to obey the signs.
Maybe some smart lawyer finally figured that out and told them it was a waste of resources to manage signs and handle inquiries. I bet the signs scared people. To somebody from Europe, it must have seemed like Dodge City in movies.
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plblark
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 11:18 am |
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Dick Unger wrote: plblark wrote: Are we forgetting that the Secret Service is a Federal LE organization and as such, most firearm laws exempt them any way? The signs don't apply to Minnesota LEO's either. People without permits cannot carry in a public place, so the signs only apply to permit holders that choose to obey the signs.
That's what I get for being too specific I guess. I'll just bet you that Secret Service Agents have much broader exemptions than even MN LEO's in these situations. Perhaps I'm wrong but It's a suspicion I have that there are more exemptions for Fed LEO's than state LEO's. Maybe they don't apply here but you get the drift.
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