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Maplewood Mall Letter - feedback requested
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Andrew Rothman
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:01 am |
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Joined: Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:24 am Posts: 6767 Location: Twin Cities
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Okay, let's drop the whole letter.
Try something like this:
Quote: Dear store manager,
I am writing to you regarding the signs posted at the entrances to the Maplewood Mall in Maplewood, MN, where your store is located.
The signs, which say “Maplewood Mall Bans Guns on these Premises,” violate Minnesota Statute 624.714, Subd. 17(e) which states:
A landlord may not restrict the lawful carry or possession of firearms by tenants or their guests.
Not only is the mall suborning your store's individual right to decide about who enters your store, but they are telling over 35,000 law-abiding, background-checked, upper-income Minnesotans that they are not welcome to spend their money at your store.
Is this the message you wish to send?
If it is not, I would encourage you to speak with Mr. Murphy and Mr. Springman about removing this contralegal sign.
Sincerely,
XXXX
cc: Mr. Murphy and Mr. Springman
Send that to the non-posting anchor tenants and a smattering of inside stores. It might have the desired effect.
On the other hand, why should we care about the unenforcable sign? It's good advertising of the fact that we have a permit program!
_________________ * NRA, UT, MADFI certified Minnesota Permit to Carry instructor, and one of 66,513 law-abiding permit holders. Read my blog.
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mrokern
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Post subject: Re: Maplewood Mall Letter - feedback requested Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:40 pm |
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Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:40 pm Posts: 2264 Location: Eden Prairie
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Not to totally resurrect a dead thread, but Maplewood is still posted with nice, big signs at all entrances to the mall and off the anchor stores. My wife pointed them out to me today as we browsed Barnes & Noble (which is NOT signed, for the record). She laughed. I smirked. I love my wife. -Mark
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BrianB
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Post subject: Re: Maplewood Mall Letter - feedback requested Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:00 pm |
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Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 9:24 pm Posts: 40 Location: St. Louis Park, MN
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mrokern
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Post subject: Re: Maplewood Mall Letter - feedback requested Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:25 pm |
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Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:40 pm Posts: 2264 Location: Eden Prairie
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How I ended up with her, I have no idea. Must have done something right...now if I only knew what...
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RobD
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Post subject: Re: Maplewood Mall Letter - feedback requested Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 6:19 am |
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Joined: Sun Oct 05, 2008 7:41 pm Posts: 234 Location: Apple-Mount Farming-Ville
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mrokern
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Post subject: Re: Maplewood Mall Letter - feedback requested Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 6:23 am |
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Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:40 pm Posts: 2264 Location: Eden Prairie
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Yup! Was going to post on Maplewood, then saw this and noticed there was never really a resolution...so update time!
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RobD
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Post subject: Re: Maplewood Mall Letter - feedback requested Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 6:31 am |
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Joined: Sun Oct 05, 2008 7:41 pm Posts: 234 Location: Apple-Mount Farming-Ville
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I don't have any photos with me, but both Eden Prairie and Northtown have notices in the fine print on their "Rules of Conduct" posters stating that firearms aren't allowed.
I open carried as the wife, kids, and I spoke to 2 EP police officers about the child safety seats they had on display at the mall. No issues, no comments, no gasps.
That being said, I think that since Maplewood has gone the effort to post format-compliant signs (even out of compliance) it is not an ignorance of the law, but a statement.
Open Carry Shopping Event? Bring the wives, we can all hang outside the stores.
_________________ NRA Instructor (BP, PPITH, PPOTH, Shothell + Metallic Reloading, RSO) Certified Glock Armorer
MNbasecamp.com - Minnesota Outdoors Community
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rthib
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Post subject: Re: Maplewood Mall Letter - feedback requested Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 7:40 am |
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Joined: Thu Jan 01, 2009 12:20 pm Posts: 46
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If you want to have fun.
Go into a store, pick out everything you were going to buy. Bring it up to the cash register. After they ring it up - ask to speak to the manager. Tell him this is what you were planning to buy, but will not until the mall takes down the signs. Thank him for his time and then leave.
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mrokern
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Post subject: Re: Maplewood Mall Letter - feedback requested Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 7:46 am |
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Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:40 pm Posts: 2264 Location: Eden Prairie
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IncaKola wrote: I don't have any photos with me, but both Eden Prairie and Northtown have notices in the fine print on their "Rules of Conduct" posters stating that firearms aren't allowed.
I open carried as the wife, kids, and I spoke to 2 EP police officers about the child safety seats they had on display at the mall. No issues, no comments, no gasps.
That being said, I think that since Maplewood has gone the effort to post format-compliant signs (even out of compliance) it is not an ignorance of the law, but a statement.
Open Carry Shopping Event? Bring the wives, we can all hang outside the stores. Yup, I've never had a problem at EP Center. I normally conceal, but I'm not very careful about it. I've been stopped exactly once by an EP officer who politely came up to me and asked, "May I see your carry permit, please?" I said, "Certainly!" and handed it to him. He looked at it, handed it back, said, "Thanks, enjoy your day!" (with a smile, even!) and that was that. -Mark
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Papa Woody
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Post subject: Re: Maplewood Mall Letter - feedback requested Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:57 pm |
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Joined: Wed Jul 19, 2006 2:50 pm Posts: 37 Location: Duluth, MN
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Miller Hill Mall (a Simon Property) also has signs banning at all entrances in Duluth, MN.
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