Tick Slayer wrote:
matt160 wrote:
I did see one civilian carrying, she was using a carry fanny pack. 
How do you know she was carrying? (I'm always curious as I've never spotted another person carrying unless I knew in advance they did.)
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| Author: | matt160 [ Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:49 pm ] |
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Tick Slayer wrote: matt160 wrote: I did see one civilian carrying, she was using a carry fanny pack. How do you know she was carrying? (I'm always curious as I've never spotted another person carrying unless I knew in advance they did.) |
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| Author: | gyrfalcon [ Wed Aug 20, 2008 11:04 am ] |
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My boss comes to town now and then and drags us out to lunch... he has a fetish for Hooters. Anyhow, I didn't see any signs posted at MOA when we entered on the 4th floor. |
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| Author: | mnmike59 [ Thu Jan 08, 2009 1:17 pm ] |
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I carry concealed at MOA. My 1911 under my shirt at my hip. I have never seen a sign at any door I have entered that prohibits it. I do however go through The doors of department stores. No one has ever noticed or said anything. |
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| Author: | merlin45k [ Sun Jan 18, 2009 6:40 pm ] |
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I work as security in moa .And I think there was another who is mall security also on this sight. They have the signs there because it is private property not public. Also years ago when the mall was built there was a shooting and gang problems .I don't write the laws I just enforce them. On the other hand if it is concealed then nobody needs to know .If your caught then you will be asked to leave or escorted out .merlin45kout |
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| Author: | Jai9100 [ Sun Jan 18, 2009 7:19 pm ] |
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merlin45k wrote: I don't write the laws I just enforce them. The law also states: Quote: Landlords may not prevent tenants (stores) or their guests (shoppers) from legally possessing and permits to carry. We all know the MOA situation and their only real recourse against people who carry. I agree that the best situation is concealed also. I have carried concealed in the mall before too, I will say, I should have worn a longer shirt while trying on shoes. |
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| Author: | bensdad [ Sun Jan 18, 2009 7:20 pm ] |
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merlin45k wrote: I work as security in moa .And I think there was another who is mall security also on this sight. They have the signs there because it is private property not public. Also years ago when the mall was built there was a shooting and gang problems .I don't write the laws I just enforce them. On the other hand if it is concealed then nobody needs to know .If your caught then you will be asked to leave or escorted out .merlin45kout Yeah, but they rent space. Doug and I have had a friendly discussion about this. We disagree and move on to other subjects. |
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| Author: | Lenny7 [ Sun Jan 18, 2009 9:59 pm ] |
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merlin45k wrote: They have the signs there because it is private property not public. Also years ago when the mall was built there was a shooting and gang problems .I don't write the laws I just enforce them. And that's where the problem is. Many feel that as a landlord, the MOA cannot ban the carrying of guns by their tenants or tenant's guests, per MN law. Are you actual MOA security or Bloomington PD? |
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| Author: | Macx [ Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:55 pm ] |
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Arrrgghhh! Legally posted or not, we all know that someone carrying there and spotted will be asked to leave. Private property not public is not the issue. They have the illegal signs and they have just as much "power" as legal ones . . . they are a precursor to an individual or individuals in uniform and/or nametags making the perfectly valid and legal request for one to leave. Failure to do so has the perscribed consequences . . . and I can think of better ways to spend $25 at MOA. The four types of shrimp dinner at Cantina #1 and a beer come to mind right away. |
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| Author: | Derwood98 [ Sun Jan 18, 2009 11:22 pm ] |
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Macx wrote: Arrrgghhh! Legally posted or not, we all know that someone carrying there and spotted will be asked to leave. Private property not public is not the issue. They have the illegal signs and they have just as much "power" as legal ones . . . they are a precursor to an individual or individuals in uniform and/or nametags making the perfectly valid and legal request for one to leave. Failure to do so has the perscribed consequences . . . and I can think of better ways to spend $25 at MOA. The four types of shrimp dinner at Cantina #1 and a beer come to mind right away. In addition to the amount of time they will detain you to write the $25 tresspassing ticket. |
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| Author: | PocketProtector642 [ Wed Jan 21, 2009 12:55 pm ] |
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Macx wrote: . . . and I can think of better ways to spend $25 at MOA. The four types of shrimp dinner at Cantina #1 and a beer come to mind right away. Thea $25 is only if you refuse to leave when asked. Otherwise its free! |
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| Author: | gyrfalcon [ Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:15 pm ] |
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merlin45k wrote: I work as security in moa .And I think there was another who is mall security also on this sight. They have the signs there because it is private property not public. Also years ago when the mall was built there was a shooting and gang problems .I don't write the laws I just enforce them. On the other hand if it is concealed then nobody needs to know .If your caught then you will be asked to leave or escorted out .merlin45kout If you actually work for the MOA maybe you can explain why the clowns didn't have a sign posted on the 4th floor entrance? |
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| Author: | Andrew Rothman [ Wed Feb 04, 2009 9:00 am ] |
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merlin45k wrote: I don't write the laws I just enforce them. I'm sure you meant to say that you enforce your employers' rules and protect their interests to the narrow extent allowed by law, right? Mall security is certainly not law enforcement. |
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| Author: | DeanC [ Wed Feb 04, 2009 9:36 am ] |
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Andrew Rothman wrote: Mall security is certainly not law enforcement. Even Paul Blart knows that. 
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| Author: | Macx [ Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:40 am ] |
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If only I could get Cantina #1's shrimp for free. . . for refusing to leave. . .. now that would be heaven. mmmmmm. |
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| Author: | lance22 [ Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:30 am ] |
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I never like it when people point to those signs while saying "It's the LAW". No, it's not the law. It's the policy of the business owner. Same deal at work. It's not against the law to carry, but it is a violation of policy. The consequences of violating MOA policy is you have to explain the law to a 16 yr old security guard as you are walking out. At work, the consequence would be immediate termination. In neither case would I be breaking the law. I'm giving the MOA the benefit of a doubt, that the underwriters/stewards can dictate policy upon the leasees. Otherwise, their "signs" are nothing more than political bumper stickers, no more binding upon the tenants than bathroom graffiti. |
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