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Author: | ttousi [ Tue Mar 25, 2008 8:21 am ] |
Post subject: | Are you signing off on your own renewal? |
My permit is due for renewal this summer and I would rather not sign off on my own. While it would be within the parameters of the statute (I believe) I think it would be tacky. We have talked about instructor meetings/seminars in the past which have not happened. I think this would be a perfect opportunity for a seminar/training. See what others are doing and be able to share your expertise. My Thoughts: 1 day seminar where each instructor would bring whatever materials they would like to share. Each Instructor would bring 1-2 blank certificates to sign off on another instructor. The agenda would be 3 part following the statute. (safe use/shooting/legal). A moderator for each segment to ensure discussion moved along and stayed within the subject & time frames. This would not be new instructor training.........existing MCPPA certified instructors only. I would offer the following 1.Coordinate event 2. Supply facility (OGC) 3. Cost would be classroom/range fee of 25.00 payable to OGC 4. Seminar date of Sun Apr 20th. I have the facility reserved for a carry class but will switch if enough are interested. Thoughts ?? |
Author: | Selurcspi [ Tue Mar 25, 2008 8:41 am ] |
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As we have two instructors in the family, we were thinking of signing off on each other. Does anyone see any problems with that? |
Author: | joelr [ Tue Mar 25, 2008 8:49 am ] |
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Selurcspi wrote: As we have two instructors in the family, we were thinking of signing off on each other. Does anyone see any problems with that? |
Author: | Andrew Rothman [ Tue Mar 25, 2008 9:15 am ] |
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I'm not prepared to sign off on any student who has not gotten a complete, cohesive carry class, which covers everything I cover in mine. While I think we could learn a ton from each other at such an event, its ad-hoc nature doesn't make for that cohesive whole. I'd suggest, as an alternative, that instructors pair up with an instructor, and sit through each others' class. That's what I plan to do. |
Author: | joelr [ Tue Mar 25, 2008 9:36 am ] |
Post subject: | Orthogonally . . . |
. . . I've been thinking about doing an instructors-only refresher class, both so folks who want to could get signed off on, and to go over in some detail not just what I do -- and don't do -- in TCCarry, but why I do and don't do it, and why stuff appears where it appears in the presentation. I don't claim that I have the only way to do things, or the only good way to do things -- but I do think that I do have a good way to do this stuff, and that while some of it is dependent on my own experiences and skillset, some of it, I think, would translate well for others. I'm not sure about the pricing, but there would be pricing; taking a day off to do this is a day that I can't do other stuff, including teaching a carry class, and while I think, on balance, that if it improves the quality of instruction that's a good thing, part of me is of the opinion that there's some costs to improving my competitors' instruction. If you're interested, email me, and if there's enough interest -- and I'm talking "interest" not commitments -- I'll figure out if it might be worth doing. |
Author: | jaysong [ Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:59 am ] |
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Being a newer instructor (only having done 3 classes and 30 students) I have been considering attending other more seasoned instructors classes as a student. I am sure it would be worth effort. My biggest obstacle is the distance I must travel. I hope to do this soon. My class has been evolving and getting better every time IMO. I think attending other instructor's classes would be a great help to me. |
Author: | jaysong [ Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:07 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Are you signing off on your own renewal? |
ttousi wrote: My permit is due for renewal this summer and I would rather not sign off on my own. While it would be within the parameters of the statute (I believe) I think it would be tacky. We have talked about instructor meetings/seminars in the past which have not happened. I think this would be a perfect opportunity for a seminar/training. See what others are doing and be able to share your expertise. My Thoughts: 1 day seminar where each instructor would bring whatever materials they would like to share. Each Instructor would bring 1-2 blank certificates to sign off on another instructor. The agenda would be 3 part following the statute. (safe use/shooting/legal). A moderator for each segment to ensure discussion moved along and stayed within the subject & time frames. This would not be new instructor training.........existing MCPPA certified instructors only. I would offer the following 1.Coordinate event 2. Supply facility (OGC) 3. Cost would be classroom/range fee of 25.00 payable to OGC 4. Seminar date of Sun Apr 20th. I have the facility reserved for a carry class but will switch if enough are interested. Thoughts ?? I like the idea. I also agree with Andrew. The continuity would not flow as well as a carry class with one lead instructor. I still think it would be worth it to have a MN Carry Permit Instructors Conference. To share ideas, teaching aids, and techniques. |
Author: | cobb [ Tue Mar 25, 2008 1:46 pm ] |
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Some of my classes have been getting a little large lately and thought of getting an instructor to sit in and maybe help with one of my classes, especially on the range. I would have zero problem signing off then, they did go through my class and I could maybe get some help and/or objective criticism. I do have one instructor volunteer to help with the class that I am going to give to the local conservation club, but that is only one of the 3 that I could use some help with. |
Author: | joelr [ Tue Mar 25, 2008 1:49 pm ] |
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cobb wrote: Some of my classes have been getting a little large lately and thought of getting an instructor to sit in and maybe help with one of my classes, especially on the range. I would have zero problem signing off then, they did go through my class and I could maybe get some help and/or objective criticism. |
Author: | ttousi [ Wed Mar 26, 2008 5:24 am ] |
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Cancel............I withdraw the offer |
Author: | GABCO [ Thu Mar 12, 2009 4:34 pm ] |
Post subject: | Permit sign-off |
I don't sign my own permit renewal nor do I sign-off my wife's permit renewal. It's just my personal ethics and does not affect my opinion of any other Instructor's opinions or actions. I think that it's worth my money to take a renewal class from another instructor as I always learn something new or a different perspective on a subject. |
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