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ree wrote:

FWIW, I just submitted my capitol carry notification 8 days ago using the template provided by kimberman here. I intentionally chose this format as it only included my name, address, phone, county, and reference number...no other identifying info, no photo copy of my DL (or even my DL #), no DOB, no copy of my carry permit.

Today, I called capitol police to confirm that I was on the list. I was not. But they transferred me over to Captain Schrader. She said she had just gotten the paper work for me (like she was literally looking at the letter in front of her) and that I'd be on the list.

Not 15 minutes later, she called me back and asked for confirmation that I did have a DL under the name I provided. She said, "normally, we ask for the driver's license to be supplied." I just said, "yes, and the name and address on it matches what I provided with the letter." Well, I've got a single letter initial for a first name and go by my middle name. She apparently did a quick query for my DL from the info I provided and didn't find it at first because she used my middle name as the first. But she then thanked me for the clarification on the name and the call was over. There was no attitude; it was all business.

So apparently, while they may still ask for the DL and other information, they will "accept" the notification without the supplemental info as they should. Had they asked for it, I would have protested but still provided it if not doing so would have been a deal-breaker in their mind.

kecker wrote:

What number do you call to verify your name is on the list?? Just Dept of Public Safety or what?

kecker wrote:

What number do you call to verify your name is on the list?? Just Dept of Public Safety or what?

Inebrius wrote:

Is the notification a onetime deal or do you have to do this for every event/visit you plan to the Capitol grounds/buildings?

acemadison wrote:

ID BE INTERESTED IN FINDING OUT HOW LONG YOUR NAME REMAINS ON THE LIST AFTER NOTIFICATION

acemadison wrote:

ID BE INTERESTED IN FINDING OUT HOW LONG YOUR NAME REMAINS ON THE LIST AFTER NOTIFICATION

Sietch wrote:

I e-mailed my notification for the current permit's season last week, basically the template posted by Kimberman in another thread. I included my permit ref. #, as well as my DL # just for good measure.

Today I got word that, they're sorry, but I'm required to send in photocopies of my DL and permit, and thanks for my cooperation.

I probably will do just that, and without much complaint. Still, I don't like having explained to me the notification requirements which, well, simply aren't.

Author:	ree [ Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:05 pm ]
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FWIW, I just submitted my capitol carry notification 8 days ago using the template provided by kimberman here. I intentionally chose this format as it only included my name, address, phone, county, and reference number...no other identifying info, no photo copy of my DL (or even my DL #), no DOB, no copy of my carry permit. Today, I called capitol police to confirm that I was on the list. I was not. But they transferred me over to Captain Schrader. She said she had just gotten the paper work for me (like she was literally looking at the letter in front of her) and that I'd be on the list. Not 15 minutes later, she called me back and asked for confirmation that I did have a DL under the name I provided. She said, "normally, we ask for the driver's license to be supplied." I just said, "yes, and the name and address on it matches what I provided with the letter." Well, I've got a single letter initial for a first name and go by my middle name. She apparently did a quick query for my DL from the info I provided and didn't find it at first because she used my middle name as the first. But she then thanked me for the clarification on the name and the call was over. There was no attitude; it was all business. So apparently, while they may still ask for the DL and other information, they will "accept" the notification without the supplemental info as they should. Had they asked for it, I would have protested but still provided it if not doing so would have been a deal-breaker in their mind.

Author:	Mosin [ Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:43 pm ]
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ree wrote: FWIW, I just submitted my capitol carry notification 8 days ago using the template provided by kimberman here. I intentionally chose this format as it only included my name, address, phone, county, and reference number...no other identifying info, no photo copy of my DL (or even my DL #), no DOB, no copy of my carry permit. Today, I called capitol police to confirm that I was on the list. I was not. But they transferred me over to Captain Schrader. She said she had just gotten the paper work for me (like she was literally looking at the letter in front of her) and that I'd be on the list. Not 15 minutes later, she called me back and asked for confirmation that I did have a DL under the name I provided. She said, "normally, we ask for the driver's license to be supplied." I just said, "yes, and the name and address on it matches what I provided with the letter." Well, I've got a single letter initial for a first name and go by my middle name. She apparently did a quick query for my DL from the info I provided and didn't find it at first because she used my middle name as the first. But she then thanked me for the clarification on the name and the call was over. There was no attitude; it was all business. So apparently, while they may still ask for the DL and other information, they will "accept" the notification without the supplemental info as they should. Had they asked for it, I would have protested but still provided it if not doing so would have been a deal-breaker in their mind. Did you send certified mail or email? I sent both, neither with DL and was on the list within a week. I only submitted name, permit ref#, and expiration. Not sure which method got me on the list though.

Author:	ree [ Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:55 pm ]
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USPS. I was testing only whether they'd insist on copies of DL and other documents that should be unnecessary. Sending a redundant email could only have added work for them.

Author:	kecker [ Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:28 pm ]
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What number do you call to verify your name is on the list?? Just Dept of Public Safety or what?

Author:	joelr [ Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:20 pm ]
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kecker wrote: What number do you call to verify your name is on the list?? Just Dept of Public Safety or what? Call the Capitol; ask for Executive Protection.

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Author:	princewally [ Wed Feb 18, 2009 9:05 pm ]
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kecker wrote: What number do you call to verify your name is on the list?? Just Dept of Public Safety or what? Sgt Michael Parker Capitol Complex Security Supervisor Rm B5, State Capitol St. Paul, MN 55155 651-296-0398 Mike.Parker@state.mn.us Send Sgt Parker an email.

Author:	sigman [ Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:38 pm ]
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I had notified capitol security several years ago and wondered if I was still on the list. I am.

Author:	Inebrius [ Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:29 pm ]
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Is the notification a onetime deal or do you have to do this for every event/visit you plan to the Capitol grounds/buildings?

Author:	mnglocker [ Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:50 pm ]
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Inebrius wrote: Is the notification a onetime deal or do you have to do this for every event/visit you plan to the Capitol grounds/buildings? It's a one time deal.

Author:	cobb [ Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:28 pm ]
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But I would check to make sure that your name is on the list. I know of one case that a name was on the list and a few years later it was not.

Author:	Sietch [ Mon May 11, 2009 5:48 pm ]
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I e-mailed my notification for the current permit's season last week, basically the template posted by Kimberman in another thread. I included my permit ref. #, as well as my DL # just for good measure. Today I got word that, they're sorry, but I'm required to send in photocopies of my DL and permit, and thanks for my cooperation. I probably will do just that, and without much complaint. Still, I don't like having explained to me the notification requirements which, well, simply aren't.

Author:	acemadison [ Tue May 19, 2009 4:22 pm ]
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ID BE INTERESTED IN FINDING OUT HOW LONG YOUR NAME REMAINS ON THE LIST AFTER NOTIFICATION

Author:	kecker [ Tue May 19, 2009 4:47 pm ]
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acemadison wrote: ID BE INTERESTED IN FINDING OUT HOW LONG YOUR NAME REMAINS ON THE LIST AFTER NOTIFICATION Pssst, your caps lock is on. Doesn't really matter. You've fulfilled your legal requirement, their internal record keeping procedures are not your problem.

Author:	joelr [ Tue May 19, 2009 6:29 pm ]
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acemadison wrote: ID BE INTERESTED IN FINDING OUT HOW LONG YOUR NAME REMAINS ON THE LIST AFTER NOTIFICATION Welcome aboard, sure, but please remember that the CapsLock key is a condiment, not a protein.

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Author:	joelr [ Tue May 19, 2009 6:56 pm ]
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Sietch wrote: I e-mailed my notification for the current permit's season last week, basically the template posted by Kimberman in another thread. I included my permit ref. #, as well as my DL # just for good measure. Today I got word that, they're sorry, but I'm required to send in photocopies of my DL and permit, and thanks for my cooperation. I probably will do just that, and without much complaint. Still, I don't like having explained to me the notification requirements which, well, simply aren't. Me, neither. I'm no lawyer, and I know that issues aren't notice and notification have some funny, technical issues, but I don't read anything in the statute about the form of notification, or any requirement to submit additional data. I did it the first time, 'way back when, because I had good legal advice -- not that it was necessary, but that this was a good way to do it -- but I don't think it's okay if even the most service-oriented departments (and the Exec Protection folks at the Capital rank up there, IMHO) require as much as a comma beyond what the laws says that they can. Remind me, sometime, to tell you about the response I got, back when such notifications were so rare that the Capitol cops working there hadn't ever seen one before. It's a fun one, and it reflects well on the folks there, but it's more of an over-a-beer thing than an Intertubes thing.