Twin Cities Carry Forum Archive :: View topic - A local crime not in the news (yet?)

White Horseradish wrote:

This is a bit of hearsay, since I know this from a a family member of mine who talked to the girl, not from the girl herself. Still, I think this is worthwhile to share.

This young woman is a Somali immigrant and a college student. Her 14 year old sister was kidnapped a little over a week ago in the Twin Cities on the way home from school. She was found a few days ago in Nashville. Apparently the kidnappers were 5 "youths", also Somali, and the reason for kidnapping was that they wanted some entertainment. They repeatedly raped her over the course of the week. They are in custody, and this is a federal case now since the crime spans several states.

The families of the perps are now harassing the victims family trying to get them to withdraw the complaint and to keep the victim from testifying. So far it's just phone calls, but the sister (the main force behind staying the course with the prosecution) is not going anywhere alone, even to the restroom.

I asked my family member to let her know that if she wants to look into a permit (and she should) I would be happy to explain the process and put her in touch with an instructor.

On a personal note, WTF? This is getting way out of hand. These a3holes think that just because it's one of "theirs" they can do anything they want? Hopefully federal prison will teach them otherwise.

plblark wrote:

I'm assuming she's 21 and eligible to possess a firearm and get a permit, Find that out soonest.

If she's willing, I'll do everything I can to make it happen. Let me know.

Suggest she seeks an emergency permit due to death threats and intimidation.

Restraining orders (paper trail and let the perps' families know she has reported it to the police)

Purchase permit if none of the above

Time at the range regardless.

Need to borrow anything to help in the instruction?

White Horseradish wrote:

I asked my family member to let her know that if she wants to look into a permit (and she should) I would be happy to explain the process and put her in touch with an instructor.

cobb wrote:

Same offer here, I have done this several times, just like other instructors on this forum. I think it is safe to say that every instructor, at least the ones I know, will offer there services free of charge to anyone in a situation like this.
(we can afford to do this because we over charge for our regular classes)

Macx wrote:

As father of a daughter who will one day be 14. The perps will never get enough time.

I vote they get death by cheese grater, liberal dousings with alcohol between peelings so the wounds don't get infected :twisted:

Author:	White Horseradish [ Thu May 07, 2009 11:48 am ]
Post subject:	A local crime not in the news (yet?)
This is a bit of hearsay, since I know this from a a family member of mine who talked to the girl, not from the girl herself. Still, I think this is worthwhile to share. This young woman is a Somali immigrant and a college student. Her 14 year old sister was kidnapped a little over a week ago in the Twin Cities on the way home from school. She was found a few days ago in Nashville. Apparently the kidnappers were 5 "youths", also Somali, and the reason for kidnapping was that they wanted some entertainment. They repeatedly raped her over the course of the week. They are in custody, and this is a federal case now since the crime spans several states. The families of the perps are now harassing the victims family trying to get them to withdraw the complaint and to keep the victim from testifying. So far it's just phone calls, but the sister (the main force behind staying the course with the prosecution) is not going anywhere alone, even to the restroom. I asked my family member to let her know that if she wants to look into a permit (and she should) I would be happy to explain the process and put her in touch with an instructor. On a personal note, WTF? This is getting way out of hand. These a3holes think that just because it's one of "theirs" they can do anything they want? Hopefully federal prison will teach them otherwise.

Author:	mrokern [ Thu May 07, 2009 11:55 am ]
Post subject:	Re: A local crime not in the news (yet?)
White Horseradish wrote: This is a bit of hearsay, since I know this from a a family member of mine who talked to the girl, not from the girl herself. Still, I think this is worthwhile to share. This young woman is a Somali immigrant and a college student. Her 14 year old sister was kidnapped a little over a week ago in the Twin Cities on the way home from school. She was found a few days ago in Nashville. Apparently the kidnappers were 5 "youths", also Somali, and the reason for kidnapping was that they wanted some entertainment. They repeatedly raped her over the course of the week. They are in custody, and this is a federal case now since the crime spans several states. The families of the perps are now harassing the victims family trying to get them to withdraw the complaint and to keep the victim from testifying. So far it's just phone calls, but the sister (the main force behind staying the course with the prosecution) is not going anywhere alone, even to the restroom. I asked my family member to let her know that if she wants to look into a permit (and she should) I would be happy to explain the process and put her in touch with an instructor. On a personal note, WTF? This is getting way out of hand. These a3holes think that just because it's one of "theirs" they can do anything they want? Hopefully federal prison will teach them otherwise. +1 on your closing thoughts, and I'm sure you'll find many instructors around here would be willing to help (private class, short notice, etc.).

Author:	plblark [ Thu May 07, 2009 11:59 am ]
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I'm assuming she's 21 and eligible to possess a firearm and get a permit, Find that out soonest. If she's willing, I'll do everything I can to make it happen (free). Let me know. Suggest she seeks an emergency permit due to death threats and intimidation. Restraining orders (paper trail and let the perps' families know she has reported it to the police) Purchase permit if none of the above Time at the range regardless. Need to borrow anything to help in the instruction?

Author:	mrokern [ Thu May 07, 2009 12:05 pm ]
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plblark wrote: I'm assuming she's 21 and eligible to possess a firearm and get a permit, Find that out soonest. If she's willing, I'll do everything I can to make it happen. Let me know. Suggest she seeks an emergency permit due to death threats and intimidation. Restraining orders (paper trail and let the perps' families know she has reported it to the police) Purchase permit if none of the above Time at the range regardless. Need to borrow anything to help in the instruction? +1 on the emergency permit, and a lot of the folks around here will do those classes at no charge. -Mark

Author:	nmat [ Thu May 07, 2009 12:16 pm ]
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I'll offer instruction free of charge if she plans on applying for the emergency permit.

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Author:	Macx [ Thu May 07, 2009 12:18 pm ]
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As father of a daughter who will one day be 14. The perps will never get enough time. I vote they get death by cheese grater, liberal dousings with alcohol between peelings so the wounds don't get infected

Author:	princewally [ Thu May 07, 2009 12:19 pm ]
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Any form of documentation at all(complaint, report, emergency permit, etc) is enough to put her in my class for free.

Author:	joelr [ Thu May 07, 2009 12:39 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: A local crime not in the news (yet?)
White Horseradish wrote: I asked my family member to let her know that if she wants to look into a permit (and she should) I would be happy to explain the process and put her in touch with an instructor. I won't be first on this, since others read it first, but: I've got a B2C class a week from tomorrow, and carry classes on the following two days. If she's there with her emergency permit (which she should get, anyway) the class and ammo are on me. (The range time and targets would be, too, but I'm guessing BPR will beat me to it, as per <s>usual</s> always.)

Author:	cobb [ Thu May 07, 2009 5:48 pm ]
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Same offer here, I have done this several times, just like other instructors on this forum. I think it is safe to say that every instructor, at least the ones I know, will offer there services free of charge to anyone in a situation like this. (we can afford to do this because we over charge for our regular classes)

Author:	joelr [ Thu May 07, 2009 5:58 pm ]
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cobb wrote: Same offer here, I have done this several times, just like other instructors on this forum. I think it is safe to say that every instructor, at least the ones I know, will offer there services free of charge to anyone in a situation like this. (we can afford to do this because we over charge for our regular classes) Close. Most do; a few have a different version of "free" than you and me. This irritates me to no end, but, then, I irritate easy. ETA: for those non-AACFI instructors who get books from me, when you give out a book for emergency permit training, please let me know and I'll be honored to replace it, if you'll let me. (AACFI gets dibs on doing that for AACFI instructors; fair is fair.)

Author:	DonL [ Thu May 07, 2009 9:04 pm ]
Post subject:	class
If I can help with training, practice, or a class (N/C of course) let me know.

Author:	Andrew Rothman [ Thu May 07, 2009 9:55 pm ]
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Well, I hate to be last, but of course, "me, too."

Author:	Q_Continuum [ Fri May 08, 2009 4:13 am ]
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Macx wrote: As father of a daughter who will one day be 14. The perps will never get enough time. I vote they get death by cheese grater, liberal dousings with alcohol between peelings so the wounds don't get infected Mixed with salt, perhaps? With some vigorous rubbing?

Author:	joelr [ Fri May 08, 2009 5:30 am ]
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I don't know enough to have a feel if this is the sort of thing where it would be beneficial -- to the victim and the family -- if it were to become very, very public, but I hope they and their friends will think that through. Sigh. One of the factors in such things is the shame issue. There should be a lot of shame -- for the folks who did such a thing to a young girl (in this case), not the young girl. But that is not how many cultures -- including, alas, the general American one -- work.

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