Yeah, we shouldn't exercise our rights, because if we do, they might get taken away, and then we wouldn't be able to exercise them...
Don't sit up near the front of the bus! It might make those racists pass Jim Crow laws!
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| Author: | akodo [ Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Open Carry near Town Hall Meeting |
The story is here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB_jgEae5sI Basically, man open carries in a state where open carry is legal in an uncontrolled area SOMEWHAT NEAR where Obama will be for a town hall meeting. Man is on private property, with property owner's permission. Poll on the issue. http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/08/12 ... ma-events/ Seems to me they'd like to go into everyone's house about a mile around the event and confiscate all guns 'just in case' |
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| Author: | djeepp [ Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Open Carry near Town Hall Meeting |
This guy's got much bigger balls than I do. Couldn't expect much else from MSLSD than we saw though. I'm a little disappointed that they didn't bring up some graphs about how many millions of children are raped and killed every month by guns though. |
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| Author: | phasma proeliator [ Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Open Carry near Town Hall Meeting |
Damn good for this guy... I wish my pair were that big. The sad thing is that the media flips out over this guy - but the truth is, it's likely a lot safer around this guy than it is around a bunch of news reporters... |
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| Author: | reaver3 [ Thu Aug 13, 2009 5:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Open Carry near Town Hall Meeting |
I wonder how many people were carrying concealed in that crowd. More than a few, I'd wager. Supposedly the SS approached him and warned him that he could be arrested for violating the "Gun-Free School Zones" act if he continued to stand there, and he subsequently left. Not sure how that law would figure, since he was standing on PRIVATE property while legally armed. |
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| Author: | kecker [ Thu Aug 13, 2009 5:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Open Carry near Town Hall Meeting |
Ok, I'm pretty sure we're all agreed he was within his legal rights and he has testicles the size of Volkswagons. So let me do a slight threadjacking. Was this the smart thing to do?? [Puts on his Devil's Advocate fake horns, tail and cloven feet] You'll have the President there, and despite the simple fact that you have no ill intentions and are not a threat the Secret Service has to keep an eye on you. And every eye that's on you, is an eye not searching for potential threats elsewhere. And for a President who is getting 30+ threats per day, more than any other President, the Secret Service is already pretty busy. As much as I may disagree with this president politically, and dislike personally, I don't wish him harm and I certainly don't want to see him killed due to a distracted Secret Service. Plus factor in that you damn well know the media wasn't going to give this guy any positive coverage. So, I'm interested in hearing arguments both ways, was this the smart thing to do? |
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| Author: | reaver3 [ Thu Aug 13, 2009 6:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Open Carry near Town Hall Meeting |
Honestly, of all potential threats to the President (I wish no harm to come to him or his family, either), I would think that the person quietly exercising his rights in full view of the public, media and law-enforcement would probably be the least of the SS's worries. That being said, I believe that the only "stupid thing" the man did was to carry an inflammatory sign at the same time. These sorts of causes are best supported one at a time, in my view. |
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| Author: | nutflush24 [ Thu Aug 13, 2009 6:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Open Carry near Town Hall Meeting |
I love the suggestion of an "emergency injunction." |
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| Author: | JimC [ Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Open Carry near Town Hall Meeting |
Stupid move -Why ask for more trouble and bad press?. We have enough of that when things are going well for gun owners. |
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| Author: | Andrew Rothman [ Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Open Carry near Town Hall Meeting |
Yeah, we shouldn't exercise our rights, because if we do, they might get taken away, and then we wouldn't be able to exercise them... Don't sit up near the front of the bus! It might make those racists pass Jim Crow laws! |
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| Author: | pappy87 [ Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Open Carry near Town Hall Meeting |
follow up interview with the guy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekqyWvGVb64 He seemed pretty cool headed even with Chris Mathews yelling at him. |
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| Author: | Lenny7 [ Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Open Carry near Town Hall Meeting |
pappy87 wrote: follow up interview with the guy. I'd check it out but you need to fix your link first. Quote: The URL contained a malformed video ID. |
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| Author: | pappy87 [ Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Open Carry near Town Hall Meeting |
there we go, sorry about that, it worked at first. |
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| Author: | djeepp [ Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Open Carry near Town Hall Meeting |
pappy87 wrote: follow up interview with the guy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekqyWvGVb64 He seemed pretty cool headed even with Chris Mathews yelling at him. He did a pretty good job. I sure as hell wouldn't go on the air with Matthews. He's a liberal and a sorry excuse for a journalist, but a hell of a good interviewer and easily traps those that aren't prepared. Nice job on embarrassing Matthews when he asked if the gun was loaded. He should have said it was chambered as well. That would have gotten a rise out of Chris. That being said, I think I'm with Kecker's devil on this one. I don't know if this was the right time and place (not to mention the sign). I'm willing to be convinced otherwise. |
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| Author: | ironbear [ Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Open Carry near Town Hall Meeting |
kecker wrote: [Puts on his Devil's Advocate fake horns, tail and cloven feet] I'll see your horns, hooves and hind end; and raise you a flaming pitchfork. If people are too intimidated to exercise their rights, how is that different then losing them? Rights don't need to be be technically taken, if you can be intimidated out of using them. I think the phrase here would Defeat in Detail |
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| Author: | jdege [ Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Open Carry near Town Hall Meeting |
djeepp wrote: That being said, I think I'm with Kecker's devil on this one. I don't know if this was the right time and place (not to mention the sign). I'm willing to be convinced otherwise. If anyone had expressed concern in advance that this stunt had a significant possibility of going wrong, I'd have agreed with them. But it seems to me that arguments about the right time and place are moot, now that it is over and the consequences were positive. Seems to me that this was exactly the right time and place, no matter how much I might have doubted that before. (And Ron Paul's congratulating Obama's Secret Service folks for their restraint in recognizing that he was legal, was the cherry on top.) |
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