Index  •  FAQ  •  Search  

It is currently Fri Mar 29, 2024 7:53 am

This is a static archive the Twin Cities Carry forum, maintained as a public service by the current forum of record, The Minnesota Carry Forum.

All times are UTC - 6 hours




Forum locked This topic is locked, you cannot edit posts or make further replies.  [ 23 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2
 Taurus PT111/140 vs. Springfield Sub Compact 9mm/.40cal 
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Taurus PT111/140 vs. Springfield Sub Compact 9mm/.40cal
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:51 pm 
Member

Joined: Mon Sep 14, 2009 3:22 pm
Posts: 21
Some interesting thoughts here. I hate to hear of problems with the Taurus (simply because of how reliable my 1911 has been). However I suppose like everything, there are a few lemons. I certainly dont want a carry gun that is only going to fire 60-70% of the time. I went and took a look at both guns today. I think I'm leaning towards the Taurus simply because of the fact that it is a little smaller, and is about $120 cheaper. But then I think about how much a gun and mag holster will cost, and then it almost balances out. However the Taurus does have a mechanical safety on it, which (In my inexperience) I would consider a plus. I think it may just come down to a coin toss.


Offline
 Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Re: Taurus PT111/140 vs. Springfield Sub Compact 9mm/.40cal
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:33 pm 
Longtime Regular

Joined: Sat May 17, 2008 9:55 pm
Posts: 598
Location: Dundas, Minnesota
Srigs made me a couple fabulous holsters for my MilPros. One is OWB and one is IWB. The only time I use mag holders is at IPSC. Otherwise, I just pop a mag in a cargo-pants pocket. If I'm not at work, I'm wearing cargo-pants or cargo-shorts. If I'm at work, that's another story.

_________________
I say I'm cleaning guns... My wife says I'm petting them.


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Taurus PT111/140 vs. Springfield Sub Compact 9mm/.40cal
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 10:14 pm 
Longtime Regular
User avatar

Joined: Tue Dec 19, 2006 6:19 am
Posts: 810
Location: Northern MN
peter94 wrote:
Some interesting thoughts here. I hate to hear of problems with the Taurus (simply because of how reliable my 1911 has been). However I suppose like everything, there are a few lemons. I certainly dont want a carry gun that is only going to fire 60-70% of the time. I went and took a look at both guns today. I think I'm leaning towards the Taurus simply because of the fact that it is a little smaller, and is about $120 cheaper. But then I think about how much a gun and mag holster will cost, and then it almost balances out. However the Taurus does have a mechanical safety on it, which (In my inexperience) I would consider a plus. I think it may just come down to a coin toss.


If you skimp on a holster for ANY pistol, you will be sorry. I carry IWB (inside the waistband) whenever I am dresssed and not working. I poorly made holster would make that hell.

Don't forget, too, that you will need a belt designed to carry the weight of the gun. Flimsy belts mean that the gun tends to tip away from your body. It's uncomfortable AND it's more likely to print (be visible under clothing).

I know it's more than you probably want to spend, but believe all of us, it is worth it in the long run.

_________________
Proud, Service Oriented, Rural LEO, or "BADGED COWBOY"
Certified MN Carry Permit Instructor


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Taurus PT111/140 vs. Springfield Sub Compact 9mm/.40cal
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:40 pm 
Longtime Regular
User avatar

Joined: Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:24 am
Posts: 6767
Location: Twin Cities
A Marine combat veteran of my acquaintance insists that he will never carry a gun with a safety.

Adrenaline messes with your brain, so keep it simple. With a long trigger like the PT111, the manual safety (like the lock and loaded chamber indicator) is a superfluous part added by attorneys.

_________________
* NRA, UT, MADFI certified Minnesota Permit to Carry instructor, and one of 66,513 law-abiding permit holders. Read my blog.


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Taurus PT111/140 vs. Springfield Sub Compact 9mm/.40cal
PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:37 am 
Longtime Regular
User avatar

Joined: Tue Dec 19, 2006 6:19 am
Posts: 810
Location: Northern MN
Andrew Rothman wrote:
A Marine combat veteran of my acquaintance insists that he will never carry a gun with a safety.

Adrenaline messes with your brain, so keep it simple. With a long trigger like the PT111, the manual safety (like the lock and loaded chamber indicator) is a superfluous part added by attorneys.


I carry my PT145 with the safety off :wink: (properly holstered, of course)

_________________
Proud, Service Oriented, Rural LEO, or "BADGED COWBOY"
Certified MN Carry Permit Instructor


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Taurus PT111/140 vs. Springfield Sub Compact 9mm/.40cal
PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:51 am 
Member

Joined: Mon Sep 14, 2009 3:22 pm
Posts: 21
Well, I just picked up a PT111 Pro. The one I bought was all black, ($349) compared to the stainless slide ($379). So I saved an extra 30 bucks. All in all I think i'll be happy with the gun. I dont know if I really wanted to part with the extra $150 plus tax for the XD. Although someday I will own one.


Offline
 Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Re: Taurus PT111/140 vs. Springfield Sub Compact 9mm/.40cal
PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:40 pm 
Longtime Regular
User avatar

Joined: Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:24 am
Posts: 6767
Location: Twin Cities
peter94 wrote:
Well, I just picked up a PT111 Pro. The one I bought was all black, ($349) compared to the stainless slide ($379).


Yeah, you don't need the stainless unless you intend to conceal the gun next to a human body with sweat glands. ;)

_________________
* NRA, UT, MADFI certified Minnesota Permit to Carry instructor, and one of 66,513 law-abiding permit holders. Read my blog.


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Taurus PT111/140 vs. Springfield Sub Compact 9mm/.40cal
PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:32 pm 
Journeyman Member

Joined: Mon Dec 22, 2008 6:57 pm
Posts: 53
Location: St. Paul
sheepdog wrote:
zimme71 wrote:
Ok....I'll chime in about the Springfield XD40 sub. I carry a 3" daily, and have over 2500 rounds through it w/o any issues at all. The ammo is going to be a bit more than the 9mm, but I personally wouldn't trade my .40 for anything. And it does have the built-in backstrap safety (which does work btw). To be fair, I haven't shot the Taurus, so I can't say one way or the other about it. Now the Taurus Judge....that's a fun one :D


Pretty much sums up my thoughts too (even the part about the Judge....those are great guns!), although I haven't quite put 2500 rounds through my XD yet.

The combination of the grip safety and the USA trigger system on the XD's is very effective. Plus the other neat features make it attractive (super-easy to disassemble, loaded chamber indicator, striker indicator, ergonomic, uber-reliable). The newer models (the XD-M's) are pretty slick...



I have been carrying the XDSC 9 since January and love it. For the reasons above and it just felt better to me. I have not shot a Taurus so no opinion for or against them.


Offline
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Forum locked This topic is locked, you cannot edit posts or make further replies.  [ 23 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2

This is a static archive the Twin Cities Carry forum, maintained as a public service by the current forum of record, The Minnesota Carry Forum.

All times are UTC - 6 hours


 Who is online 

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 61 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron


 
Index  |  FAQ  |  Search

phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group