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Even with full access controls, gun bans don't reduce crime
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Author:  kimberman [ Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:22 am ]
Post subject:  Even with full access controls, gun bans don't reduce crime
Australia Obviously Needs Gun Control Laws!

Quote:
From the October 5, 2009 Telegraph (Sidney, AUS):

GUN violence is so out of control there are three shootings a week in Sydney and neighbourhoods are living in fear.

The city's shooting capital is Fairfield, with 34 shootings and drive-bys in just two years to the end of June.

Exclusive statistics from the Bureau of Crime Statistics show there were 157 drive-by and illegal shootings between July 2008 and the end of June, up from 129 the year before.

Police investigated 29 shootings in the Blacktown local government area, 25 in Bankstown, 24 in Auburn and 20 in Liverpool. There were even 11 shootings in the heart of the city.

Opposition police spokesman Mike Gallacher said NSW was awash with handguns, which were being imported from overseas and then traded on Sydney streets.

"Criminals are getting their hands on illegally imported firearms," he said last night.
A frightening array of guns have been seized in the past month, including a .357 Magnum handgun and a .22 shortened rifle with silencer.

In one raid on September 9, police officers managed to seize five Colt M16 assault rifles, three Colt AR15 assault rifles, three 9mm assault rifles, a tactical assault rifle and seven 9mm handguns at Rosebery.

What a shocker: an island nation can't prevent smuggling of automatic weapons and handguns. And after having disarmed law-abiding Australians of semiautomatic rifles.


http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/g ... 5782701247
Author:  Moby Clarke [ Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:39 am ]
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I am more of a handgun guy, but since I have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express, I know many long guns, too. However, could some of you more enlightened folks educate me to the particulars of a tactical assault rifle? That one went over my head.

Back on topic, please, may I have a show of hands of those of us who are suprised by this information?
Author:  Andrew Rothman [ Sun Oct 11, 2009 12:09 pm ]
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(crickets)
Author:  mrokern [ Sun Oct 11, 2009 12:11 pm ]
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Moby Clarke wrote:
I am more of a handgun guy, but since I have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express, I know many long guns, too. However, could some of you more enlightened folks educate me to the particulars of a tactical assault rifle? That one went over my head.

Back on topic, please, may I have a show of hands of those of us who are suprised by this information?


I'm actually curious about the 9mm assault rifles.
Author:  a911scanner [ Sun Oct 11, 2009 1:07 pm ]
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mrokern wrote:
Moby Clarke wrote:
I am more of a handgun guy, but since I have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express, I know many long guns, too. However, could some of you more enlightened folks educate me to the particulars of a tactical assault rifle? That one went over my head.

Back on topic, please, may I have a show of hands of those of us who are suprised by this information?


I'm actually curious about the 9mm assault rifles.


AR platform modified to shoot 9mm?
Author:  PoorSSJ [ Sun Oct 11, 2009 1:31 pm ]
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Moby Clarke wrote:
I am more of a handgun guy, but since I have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express, I know many long guns, too. However, could some of you more enlightened folks educate me to the particulars of a tactical assault rifle? That one went over my head.

Back on topic, please, may I have a show of hands of those of us who are suprised by this information?


I think to qualify for that particular designation it would be required to have a 511 or similar brand name
Author:  Andrew Rothman [ Sun Oct 11, 2009 1:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Even with full access controls, gun bans don't reduce crime
mrokern wrote:
Moby Clarke wrote:
I am more of a handgun guy, but since I have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express, I know many long guns, too. However, could some of you more enlightened folks educate me to the particulars of a tactical assault rifle? That one went over my head.

Back on topic, please, may I have a show of hands of those of us who are suprised by this information?


I'm actually curious about the 9mm assault rifles.


An Uzi, I guess.
Author:  realtor_packing_heat [ Sun Oct 11, 2009 1:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Even with full access controls, gun bans don't reduce crime
Andrew Rothman wrote:
(crickets)


The silence is deafening.
Author:  Chunkychuck [ Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:24 pm ]
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"Exclusive statistics from the Bureau of Crime Statistics show there were 157 drive-by and illegal shootings between July 2008 and the end of June, up from 129 the year before."

i was wondering if they kept statistics on their legal shootings.
Author:  larryflew [ Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Even with full access controls, gun bans don't reduce crime
Kel Tec sub-9 and Sub2000, Ruger PC9, UZI, Marlin or hi point carbine as well as several others available in 9mm
Author:  mrokern [ Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Even with full access controls, gun bans don't reduce crime
Andrew Rothman wrote:
mrokern wrote:
Moby Clarke wrote:
I am more of a handgun guy, but since I have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express, I know many long guns, too. However, could some of you more enlightened folks educate me to the particulars of a tactical assault rifle? That one went over my head.

Back on topic, please, may I have a show of hands of those of us who are suprised by this information?


I'm actually curious about the 9mm assault rifles.


An Uzi, I guess.


Ah, so they don't know what a submachine gun is. :lol:
Author:  Q_Continuum [ Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Even with full access controls, gun bans don't reduce crime
Imported MP5, or similar?

M16's were on the list, so it is possible.
Author:  kimberman [ Mon Oct 12, 2009 9:57 am ]
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Chunkychuck wrote:
i was wondering if they kept statistics on their legal shootings.


They don't have any. The good guys are disarmed sheep awaiting the slaughter (except well guarded politicians, of course). Can you run 850fps?
Author:  PocketProtector642 [ Mon Oct 12, 2009 4:38 pm ]
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im guessing they mean cop (legal) vs. civilians (illegal).
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