What's the deal with SureFire?
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Dave Matheny
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Post subject: What's the deal with SureFire? Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:18 am |
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Joined: Mon Sep 26, 2005 9:36 am Posts: 753 Location: No. 12 Grimauld Place, London W1
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This is semi-gun-related: I have a SureFire flashlight, a Z2 CombatLight version, about 5 inches long, that's a very strong little light-thrower. . . but the cost of replacement batteries is insane. I forget how much, but it's not like picking up some C-cells at the grocery store.
Just yesterday, when I realized my wife was using it for general around-the-house flashlight purposes, I had to ask her to use something else. She asked why the batteries cost so much, and I opened my mouth to explain why, and then had to close it again because I don't know.
So my question is, what's so farging great about their batteries that we have to lay down that much cash for replacements?
_________________ "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -- George Orwell
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Andrew Rothman
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 12:40 pm |
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CR123 Litium batteries pack more energy in a smaller space than carbon-zinc or alkaline batteries, and they do cost more... But not that much more. Bought by the dozen from SureFire, they are $1.25 each, last time I ordered. (I see they are now $1.75.)
Consider that they are 3v and 1300 mAH, and have a 10-year storage life, and it's quite reasonable.
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Dave Matheny
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 1:20 pm |
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Thanks, Andrew. I had to pay a lot more than that for them, although I forget how much. I'll check Batteries Plus, which has been good to me so far.
_________________ "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -- George Orwell
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dcwn.45
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 3:25 pm |
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Joined: Tue Aug 23, 2005 4:42 pm Posts: 270 Location: Waconia,Mn.
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NEVER buy cr123 batteries from a grocery or drug store,I have seen them for 6-8 dollars each! I always buy by the dozen at whatever gun store I am at,usually for less than $20 for a dozen.
_________________ David ,Molon Labe!
"An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." --Col. Jeff Cooper
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squib_joe
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 5:16 pm |
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SethB
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Post subject: Re: What's the deal with SureFire? Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:12 pm |
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Dave Matheny wrote: So my question is, what's so farging great about their batteries that we have to lay down that much cash for replacements?
CR123s are good batteries. I generally pay about $1 each for them, by checking for online sales.
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Macx
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:42 pm |
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Thanks guys. This has been an issue in the back of my mind. I use a G2 . . . yeah the cheapy $34 dollar thing, but I am most interested in having a lot of light without alot of flashlight. I don't want too many things on me that could be weapons, while I am at work. I do want to conduct searches with a tool that makes me feel alot less prone to get stuck on a dirty needle or the like. I work with mentally ill and chemically dependant folks, basically we are the toliet handle for the people the system is about to flush. The percentage of my clients that are convicts is pretty high, so the boobytrap near the stash is an ever-present reality. I don't use the flashlight much except for searches and as a "nightstand" compliment for the pistol under the pillow.
Anyway, I love the tool, but have been a bit irked by the price of powering it.
Edited to add: I buy in bulk from the Surefire website myself. Paid tooo much at RadioShack once, when my juice went low & I couldn't wait for juice in a box to ship.
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a law unto himself; it invites anarchy .” Olmstead v. U.S., 277 U.S. 438
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Steelheart
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 11:30 pm |
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Joined: Mon Aug 08, 2005 12:01 am Posts: 188 Location: south central Minnesota
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I've seen the 12ct boxes at Cabela's and I think Gander Mountain. With them not on sale I'm thinking $20 per box. I haven't gotten any for a while so I could be wrong.
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ironbear
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Post subject: Re: What's the deal with SureFire? Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 10:36 am |
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Joined: Tue Aug 16, 2005 1:08 pm Posts: 546 Location: Roseville
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Dave Matheny wrote: Just yesterday, when I realized my wife was using it for general around-the-house flashlight purposes, I had to ask her to use something else. She asked why the batteries cost so much, and I opened my mouth to explain why, and then had to close it again because I don't know.
So my question is, what's so farging great about their batteries that we have to lay down that much cash for replacements?
Volume, volume, volume! AAA through D sizes are everywhere. Economics drive the cost down. Lithium's have a much smaller distribution and use, so their price goes up. The benefits are: much higher energy content than an alkaline, and the cell voltage is twice and high (3 volt vs. 1.5 volt.)
Maybe you should get your wife one of the Streamlight Strion's I've been eying. A little fatter that a mini-maglite, output similar to other 2-cell lithiums, but rechargeable! Ohhhh, really lit up my tech-toy radar!
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kimberman
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Post subject: Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 10:51 pm |
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Joined: Thu Aug 11, 2005 7:48 pm Posts: 2782 Location: St. Paul
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Ebay is the place to buy batteries.
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