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Couple of thoughts on the video -
1) I have a good friend who's a cop. On traffic stops, he always asks the person if they know how fast they were going? He already knows the answer. If they are honest with him, he'll usually let them off with a warning, or gives them a break by writing them for 10 over in a 55, which won't go on their record. When they lie and say "I don't know..." or I think I was going XXX (5-7 miles an hour over)... That says they don't want to take responsibility for their actions, and they usually get the full ticket. Talking and being honest goes a long way with my friend. Saying nothing, would indicate that you've been through this before... (another strike, like in the video)

2) My friend stopped someone after they picked up their merchandise that was purchased with a stolen credit card. Had this person said nothing, they would have been arrested on the spot and would have sat in jail all weekend, photographed and fingerprinted and waited to presented their evidence to the judge after being arraigned. Because they talked and showed my friend their paypal receipt and other evidence that proved that they were NOT the one that used the stolen credit card, they were NOT arrested and allowed to continue on their way. (They had just started their vacation and were catching a plane to take a cruise) This is an excellant example of how talking to the police CAN get you "un-arrested".

I think you have to evaluate the circumstances AND the police department you may be dealing with. How does the saying go... NEVER say NEVER. Should this apply in "Never Talk to the Police"????

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I never get in this situation. I always speak first and ask why I was stopped, and if it was speeding I ask where and how fast.

I'm skeptical of what your friend says. He may actually believe what he says, but I'd bet his "breaks" are actually just DUI checks, and those who are <10 mph over.

(If he's an experienced COUNTY DEPUTY; they often see themselves as "real cops" instead of lowly "speed cops" and issue very few of speeding tickets.)

And then speeding is not the reason for the stop, it's just the excuse of the moment.

I'd bet I get more "breaks" than most people, despite my less passive response. A couple of years ago I got a "warning" for 88 in a 55, but it was the Sheriff himself, and it WAS Christmas day...


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A word to the wise. Unless something in the last few months has changed you will told it doesn't go on your record IT DOES! This seems to be used to "ease" the sting of the ticket.

I am in the insurance industry and wish I had a nickel for everyone that came in and told me exactly that "I got a ticket for speeding on the freeway but the officer said it won't go on my record because it is under XX # of miles over the limit". My experience is that if you got a ticket for a moving violation in Minnesota (not a warning, fix-it, or parking) its on your record unless you go to court and have it removed.

I am not sure if officers do this intentionally to reduce the chance of a confrontation or if they really don't know.

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Got the first segment to download in iTunes. Can't get the second segment in any way or form. :(


Try it again- it took me a few tries to get section 1, but 2 was fine.
It's a terrific piece. Every bit as good as your .sig, but somewhat longer.



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Since -- and there's nothing wrong with that -- most of the folks in the community are conservative (and, for some values, that includes me -- if you can consider somebody in favor requiring states to recognize same-sex and multi-party marriages to be conservative), I think it's important, from time to time, to point out that self-defense is something that folks of all political stripes (except, maybe, ardent pacifists) can and so, from time to time, get behind.

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Since -- and there's nothing wrong with that -- most of the folks in the community are conservative (and, for some values, that includes me -- if you can consider somebody in favor requiring states to recognize same-sex and multi-party marriages to be conservative), I think it's important, from time to time, to point out that self-defense is something that folks of all political stripes (except, maybe, ardent pacifists) can and so, from time to time, get behind.


Amen to that! Although I'd tend to call them "obvious victims" instead of "ardent pacifists". :wink:

Heck, even Ghandi recognized a need for self-defense.

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joelr wrote:
if you can consider somebody in favor requiring states to recognize same-sex and multi-party marriages to be conservative ...

Well <I>I</i> would call you conservative. A true Liberal(tarian) would say "What in Hades is the State doing 'recognizing' a marriage in the first place?!?"

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Natural instinct? :)

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TOKYO - When Yosuke the parrot flew out of his cage and got lost, he did exactly what he had been taught — recite his name and address to a stranger willing to help.
Police rescued the African grey parrot two weeks ago from a neighbor's roof in the city of Nagareyama, near Tokyo. After spending a night at the station, he was transferred to a nearby veterinary hospital while police searched for clues, local policeman Shinjiro Uemura said.
He kept mum with the cops, but began chatting after a few days with the vet.
"I'm Mr. Yosuke Nakamura," the bird told the veterinarian, according to Uemura. The parrot also provided his full home address, down to the street number, and even entertained the hospital staff by singing songs.
"We checked the address, and what do you know, a Nakamura family really lived there. So we told them we've found Yosuke," Uemura said.
The Nakamura family told police they had been teaching the bird its name and address for about two years.
But Yosuke apparently wasn't keen on opening up to police officials.
"I tried to be friendly and talked to him, but he completely ignored me," Uemura said.


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That is awesome. Now I have to figure out how to carve out 48 minutes from my carry class to show that.


My thoughts exactly!!!
We will be watching this while eating lunch in our future classes.

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Excellent plan! I was trying to figure out how to incorporate it too and over lunch is a great idea. Thanks.

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Natural instinct? :)


That is a fun story.....Thanks for sharing it. :D

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Sorry about the dupicate post in MN Carry Issues guys. I didn't know this had already been covered recently. :oops:


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Nothing to be sorry about...........happens once in awhile.
Just tell everyone plblark told you to post it :wink:

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