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tman065
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Post subject: Pursuit and Gunfight Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 1:30 am |
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_________________ Proud, Service Oriented, Rural LEO, or "BADGED COWBOY" Certified MN Carry Permit Instructor
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Dick Unger
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Post subject: Re: Pursuit and Gunfight Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 6:14 am |
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Joined: Sun Aug 28, 2005 2:54 am Posts: 2444 Location: West Central MN
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Well, that woke me up this morning! Wow! I wonder about the rest of the story. The guy who bailed at 95mph must have been awfully scared..... Didn't bother the cop though......
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mrokern
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Post subject: Re: Pursuit and Gunfight Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 9:35 am |
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Yipes! Shows just how quickly things can go from bad to worse. It also shows how most shootouts don't exactly give you time to get into a stance, obtain a proper sight picture, etc.
Great job by the officers.
-Mark
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White Horseradish
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Post subject: Re: Pursuit and Gunfight Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:23 am |
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Joined: Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:52 pm Posts: 700 Location: Northeast Minneapolis
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I always wonder WTF people are thinking when they try to run from the police like that. How could one guy in a car possibly have a chance against multiple pursuers who are able to coordinate actions over the radio?
Then again, smart people don't steal small with a gun in hand, they steal big with a briefcase.
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Andrew Rothman
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Post subject: Re: Pursuit and Gunfight Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 11:56 am |
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White Horseradish
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Post subject: Re: Pursuit and Gunfight Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 3:00 pm |
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Andrew Rothman wrote: (looks at WH's avatar) Nice briefcase. Check the other hand.
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Dick Unger
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Post subject: Re: Pursuit and Gunfight Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 3:47 pm |
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Joined: Sun Aug 28, 2005 2:54 am Posts: 2444 Location: West Central MN
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White Horseradish wrote: I always wonder WTF people are thinking when they try to run from the police like that. How could one guy in a car possibly have a chance against multiple pursuers who are able to coordinate actions over the radio?
Actually, when i was a teenager, ditching the cops worked pretty well, quite a few times. It's just they never show on TV when the idiots win.
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BrianB
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Post subject: Re: Pursuit and Gunfight Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 9:50 pm |
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White Horseradish wrote: Andrew Rothman wrote: (looks at WH's avatar) Nice briefcase. Check the other hand. love that movie
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Traveler
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Post subject: Re: Pursuit and Gunfight Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 6:25 pm |
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"Both Sgt. Faulk and the suspect survived."
Another case where the officers should be taken to the range and made to learn to shoot at and hit their target. What were these officers trying to do, scare the perp with gunfire?
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mrokern
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Post subject: Re: Pursuit and Gunfight Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:05 pm |
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Traveler wrote: "Both Sgt. Faulk and the suspect survived."
Another case where the officers should be taken to the range and made to learn to shoot at and hit their target. What were these officers trying to do, scare the perp with gunfire? Nah, not faulting them in this case. 1) Shooting from behind, with zero clear shot at center mass. Head shots = Hollywood dreams. 2) They DID hit the guy, multiple times from what I read. This is why a good instructor will remind you that this isn't Hollywood. You don't get shot and automatically die. 3) Shooting through glass isn't exactly a great thing. Bullets don't go straight through and continue with same trajectory and same velocity. -Mark
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ironbear
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Post subject: Re: Pursuit and Gunfight Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:07 pm |
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Traveler wrote: Another case where the officers should be taken to the range and made to learn to shoot at and hit their target. What were these officers trying to do, scare the perp with gunfire? +1 to mrokern. I want to take the class, where I can learn to shoot through steel and glass, and accurately hit targets I can't see, all while being shot at...
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kecker
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Post subject: Re: Pursuit and Gunfight Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:17 pm |
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Too bad about the suspect living. Sorry to hear that. Good to hear the officer survived and from the sounds of it wasn't directly shot. That's a big plus. Traveler wrote: Another case where the officers should be taken to the range and made to learn to shoot at and hit their target. What were these officers trying to do, scare the perp with gunfire? Leaving the fact that they DID shoot him multiple times aside (Mark covered that), doctors have gotten pretty good with the whole gunshot thing. Assuming you get to a hospital in a timely manner, your chances of survival are pretty damn good. For some reason the 90%+ statistic comes to my head but I can't vouch for that.
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