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ree
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:05 pm |
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Joined: Sun Apr 29, 2007 9:55 pm Posts: 742 Location: Twin Cities
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FWIW, I just submitted my capitol carry notification 8 days ago using the template provided by kimberman here. I intentionally chose this format as it only included my name, address, phone, county, and reference number...no other identifying info, no photo copy of my DL (or even my DL #), no DOB, no copy of my carry permit.
Today, I called capitol police to confirm that I was on the list. I was not. But they transferred me over to Captain Schrader. She said she had just gotten the paper work for me (like she was literally looking at the letter in front of her) and that I'd be on the list.
Not 15 minutes later, she called me back and asked for confirmation that I did have a DL under the name I provided. She said, "normally, we ask for the driver's license to be supplied." I just said, "yes, and the name and address on it matches what I provided with the letter." Well, I've got a single letter initial for a first name and go by my middle name. She apparently did a quick query for my DL from the info I provided and didn't find it at first because she used my middle name as the first. But she then thanked me for the clarification on the name and the call was over. There was no attitude; it was all business.
So apparently, while they may still ask for the DL and other information, they will "accept" the notification without the supplemental info as they should. Had they asked for it, I would have protested but still provided it if not doing so would have been a deal-breaker in their mind.
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Mosin
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:43 pm |
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Joined: Fri Dec 26, 2008 2:34 pm Posts: 185 Location: Bloomington
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ree wrote: FWIW, I just submitted my capitol carry notification 8 days ago using the template provided by kimberman here. I intentionally chose this format as it only included my name, address, phone, county, and reference number...no other identifying info, no photo copy of my DL (or even my DL #), no DOB, no copy of my carry permit. Today, I called capitol police to confirm that I was on the list. I was not. But they transferred me over to Captain Schrader. She said she had just gotten the paper work for me (like she was literally looking at the letter in front of her) and that I'd be on the list. Not 15 minutes later, she called me back and asked for confirmation that I did have a DL under the name I provided. She said, "normally, we ask for the driver's license to be supplied." I just said, "yes, and the name and address on it matches what I provided with the letter." Well, I've got a single letter initial for a first name and go by my middle name. She apparently did a quick query for my DL from the info I provided and didn't find it at first because she used my middle name as the first. But she then thanked me for the clarification on the name and the call was over. There was no attitude; it was all business. So apparently, while they may still ask for the DL and other information, they will "accept" the notification without the supplemental info as they should. Had they asked for it, I would have protested but still provided it if not doing so would have been a deal-breaker in their mind.
Did you send certified mail or email?
I sent both, neither with DL and was on the list within a week. I only submitted name, permit ref#, and expiration.
Not sure which method got me on the list though.
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ree
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:55 pm |
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Joined: Sun Apr 29, 2007 9:55 pm Posts: 742 Location: Twin Cities
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USPS. I was testing only whether they'd insist on copies of DL and other documents that should be unnecessary. Sending a redundant email could only have added work for them.
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kecker
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:28 pm |
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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:57 am Posts: 818 Location: Apple Valley, MN
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What number do you call to verify your name is on the list?? Just Dept of Public Safety or what?
_________________ http://www.eckernet.com My mind is like a steel trap - rusty and illegal in 37 states.
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joelr
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:20 pm |
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Joined: Sun Aug 07, 2005 5:43 am Posts: 7970 Location: Minneapolis MN
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kecker wrote: What number do you call to verify your name is on the list?? Just Dept of Public Safety or what? Call the Capitol; ask for Executive Protection.
_________________ Just a guy.
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princewally
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 9:05 pm |
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Joined: Wed Jan 24, 2007 11:02 am Posts: 1684 Location: St Louis Park
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kecker wrote: What number do you call to verify your name is on the list?? Just Dept of Public Safety or what?
Sgt Michael Parker
Capitol Complex Security Supervisor
Rm B5, State Capitol
St. Paul, MN 55155
651-296-0398
Mike.Parker@state.mn.us
Send Sgt Parker an email.
_________________ Of the people, By the People, For the People. The government exists to serve us, not the reverse.
-------------------- Next MN carry permit class: TBD.
Permit to Carry MN --------------------
jason <at> metrodefense <dot> com
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sigman
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:38 pm |
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Joined: Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:20 am Posts: 1317 Location: Racine, MN
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I had notified capitol security several years ago and wondered if I was still on the list. I am.
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Inebrius
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:29 pm |
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Joined: Thu May 10, 2007 9:30 pm Posts: 197 Location: Minneapolis
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Is the notification a onetime deal or do you have to do this for every event/visit you plan to the Capitol grounds/buildings?
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mnglocker
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:50 pm |
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Inebrius wrote: Is the notification a onetime deal or do you have to do this for every event/visit you plan to the Capitol grounds/buildings?
It's a one time deal.
_________________ Get Off My Lawn.
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cobb
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:28 pm |
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But I would check to make sure that your name is on the list. I know of one case that a name was on the list and a few years later it was not.
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Sietch
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Post subject: Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 5:48 pm |
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Joined: Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:05 pm Posts: 199 Location: Twin Cities, MN
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I e-mailed my notification for the current permit's season last week, basically the template posted by Kimberman in another thread. I included my permit ref. #, as well as my DL # just for good measure.
Today I got word that, they're sorry, but I'm required to send in photocopies of my DL and permit, and thanks for my cooperation.
I probably will do just that, and without much complaint. Still, I don't like having explained to me the notification requirements which, well, simply aren't.
_________________ "My name is Shosanna Dreyfus. This is the face of Jewish vengeance."
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acemadison
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Post subject: Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 4:22 pm |
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Joined: Tue May 19, 2009 1:55 pm Posts: 20 Location: Saint Paul
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ID BE INTERESTED IN FINDING OUT HOW LONG YOUR NAME REMAINS ON THE LIST AFTER NOTIFICATION
_________________ When in Doubt Empty the Magazine
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kecker
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Post subject: Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 4:47 pm |
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acemadison wrote: ID BE INTERESTED IN FINDING OUT HOW LONG YOUR NAME REMAINS ON THE LIST AFTER NOTIFICATION
Pssst, your caps lock is on.
Doesn't really matter. You've fulfilled your legal requirement, their internal record keeping procedures are not your problem.
_________________ http://www.eckernet.com My mind is like a steel trap - rusty and illegal in 37 states.
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joelr
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Post subject: Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 6:29 pm |
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Joined: Sun Aug 07, 2005 5:43 am Posts: 7970 Location: Minneapolis MN
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acemadison wrote: ID BE INTERESTED IN FINDING OUT HOW LONG YOUR NAME REMAINS ON THE LIST AFTER NOTIFICATION Welcome aboard, sure, but please remember that the CapsLock key is a condiment, not a protein.
_________________ Just a guy.
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joelr
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Post subject: Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 6:56 pm |
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Joined: Sun Aug 07, 2005 5:43 am Posts: 7970 Location: Minneapolis MN
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Sietch wrote: I e-mailed my notification for the current permit's season last week, basically the template posted by Kimberman in another thread. I included my permit ref. #, as well as my DL # just for good measure.
Today I got word that, they're sorry, but I'm required to send in photocopies of my DL and permit, and thanks for my cooperation.
I probably will do just that, and without much complaint. Still, I don't like having explained to me the notification requirements which, well, simply aren't. Me, neither.
I'm no lawyer, and I know that issues aren't notice and notification have some funny, technical issues, but I don't read anything in the statute about the form of notification, or any requirement to submit additional data. I did it the first time, 'way back when, because I had good legal advice -- not that it was necessary, but that this was a good way to do it -- but I don't think it's okay if even the most service-oriented departments (and the Exec Protection folks at the Capital rank up there, IMHO) require as much as a comma beyond what the laws says that they can.
Remind me, sometime, to tell you about the response I got, back when such notifications were so rare that the Capitol cops working there hadn't ever seen one before. It's a fun one, and it reflects well on the folks there, but it's more of an over-a-beer thing than an Intertubes thing.
_________________ Just a guy.
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