HF792 Machine Guns and Short-barreled Shotguns
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Mosin
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Post subject: HF792 Machine Guns and Short-barreled Shotguns Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 2:24 pm |
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Not exactly sure what this means but I'm guessing if you get caught in violation of NFA you will be a registered as a predatory offender
https://www.revisor.leg.state.mn.us/bin ... ssion=ls86
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<div class="xtend_ce"><a id="pl.1.1"></a> 1.1 A bill for an act<br /> </div><a id="pl.1.2"></a> 1.2 relating to crimes; including possession of machine guns and short-barreled <br />
<a id="pl.1.3"></a> 1.3 shotguns to list of crimes against a person for registration under the Predatory <br /> <a id="pl.1.4"></a> 1.4 Offender Registration Law;amending Minnesota Statutes 2008, section 243.167, <br /> <a id="pl.1.5"></a> 1.5 subdivision 1.<br /> <a id="pl.1.6"></a> 1.6 BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF MINNESOTA:<br /> <br />
<a id="bill.0.1.0"></a><a id="pl.1.7"></a> 1.7 Section 1. Minnesota Statutes 2008, section 243.167, subdivision 1, is amended to read:<br /> <a id="pl.1.8"></a> 1.8 Subdivision 1. <b>Definition.</b> As used in this section, "crime against the person" means <br /> <a id="pl.1.9"></a> 1.9 a violation of any of the following or a similar law of another state or of the United States: <br /> <a id="pl.1.10"></a> 1.10 section <statute_ref>609.165</statute_ref>; <statute_ref>609.185</statute_ref>; <statute_ref>609.19</statute_ref>; <statute_ref>609.195</statute_ref>; <statute_ref>609.20</statute_ref>; <statute_ref>609.205</statute_ref>; <statute_ref>609.221</statute_ref>; <statute_ref>609.222</statute_ref>; <statute_ref>609.223</statute_ref>; <br />
<statute_ref><a id="pl.1.11"></a> 1.11 609.2231 </statute_ref>; <statute_ref>609.224, subdivision 2</statute_ref> or 4; <statute_ref>609.2242, subdivision 2</statute_ref> or 4; <statute_ref>609.2247</statute_ref>; <statute_ref>609.235</statute_ref>; <br /> <statute_ref><a id="pl.1.12"></a> 1.12 609.245, subdivision 1 </statute_ref>; <statute_ref>609.25</statute_ref>; <statute_ref>609.255</statute_ref>; <statute_ref>609.3451, subdivision 2</statute_ref>; <statute_ref>609.498, subdivision 1</statute_ref>; <br />
<statute_ref><a id="pl.1.13"></a> 1.13 609.582, subdivision 1 </statute_ref>;<u> </u> <statute_ref><u>609.67</u></statute_ref><u>;</u> or <statute_ref>617.23, subdivision 2</statute_ref>; or any felony-level violation of <br /> <a id="pl.1.14"></a> 1.14 section <statute_ref>609.229</statute_ref>; <statute_ref>609.377</statute_ref>; <statute_ref>609.749</statute_ref>; or <statute_ref>624.713</statute_ref>.<br />
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_________________ April 19, 1775 the strongest military in the world attacked farmers and townspeople formed as militia in Concord. One year, 3 months, and 25,000 american casualties later, we would begin forming a government based on limited powers and individual liberties.
It's your constitution. They died for it. Read it. Know it.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution ... rview.html
http://LibertyMinnesota.com
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plblark
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 2:34 pm |
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With Cornish as a listed author, I'm inclined to say I'm not seeing something sinister and e-mail him for the rationale.
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Mosin
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 2:39 pm |
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plblark wrote: With Cornish as a listed author, I'm inclined to say I'm not seeing something sinister and e-mail him for the rationale.
Yea, that jumped out at me too. But Olin just removed his name from the bill so that makes me wonder also.
It's odd seeing Hilstrom and Cornish on a firearms bill together.
_________________ April 19, 1775 the strongest military in the world attacked farmers and townspeople formed as militia in Concord. One year, 3 months, and 25,000 american casualties later, we would begin forming a government based on limited powers and individual liberties.
It's your constitution. They died for it. Read it. Know it.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution ... rview.html
http://LibertyMinnesota.com
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plblark
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 2:41 pm |
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_________________ Certified Carry Permit Instructor (MNTactics.com and ShootingSafely.com) Click here for current Carry Classes "There is no safety for honest men, except by believing all possible evil of evil men." - Edwin Burke
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Mosin
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 2:42 pm |
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I forgot my whole point in posting this.
Committee hearing this Thursday will hear this bill and HF180. Should be an interesting meeting.
Quote: THURSDAY, February 26, 2009 1:00 PM Committee: Public Safety Policy and Oversight Room: 10 State Office Building Chair: Rep. Debra Hilstrom Agenda: HF180 (Paymar) Heads of law enforcement agencies penalty established for those who allow nonlicensed employees and peace officer agents to carry firearms. HF161 (Thissen) Medical response unit reimbursement pilot program established, emergency medical services programs funded, and money appropriated. HF971 (Bigham) Predatory offender registration time period rule clarified. HF695 (Hilstrom) Marriage terms, procedures, and forms clarified, modified, and specified HF792 (Hilstrom) Machine gun and short-barreled shotgun possession included on list of crimes against a person for registration under the Predatory Offender Registration Law.
_________________ April 19, 1775 the strongest military in the world attacked farmers and townspeople formed as militia in Concord. One year, 3 months, and 25,000 american casualties later, we would begin forming a government based on limited powers and individual liberties.
It's your constitution. They died for it. Read it. Know it.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution ... rview.html
http://LibertyMinnesota.com
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plblark
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 2:44 pm |
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Paymar really has a thing against firearms ...
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Traveler
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 2:50 pm |
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Could it be that the Paymar authored bill is directed at the "esteemed" Ramsey County Sheriff Fletcher? He did allow his best man to run around willy-nilly armed with little intellect and a large firearm.
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Mosin
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 2:51 pm |
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plblark wrote: Paymar really has a thing against firearms ...
Yup, I can't worry about other districts reps though since my own house isn't in order. Rep Lenczewski doesn't exactly vote my way very often. I guess at least she's not introducing anti gun bills though -- just voting for them.
_________________ April 19, 1775 the strongest military in the world attacked farmers and townspeople formed as militia in Concord. One year, 3 months, and 25,000 american casualties later, we would begin forming a government based on limited powers and individual liberties.
It's your constitution. They died for it. Read it. Know it.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution ... rview.html
http://LibertyMinnesota.com
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Mosin
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:23 pm |
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Tony's on the floor right now but being the tech savvy Rep he is he still replies to emails.
Quote: HF792 Not exactly sure what this means but I'm guessing if you get caught in violation of the National Firearms Act you will be registered as a predatory offender. Is that all it amounts to? His reply Quote: Yes, some groups are making a big deal of it, but you have to be convicted a second time and it's someone who shouldn't have a gun of any kind.
_________________ April 19, 1775 the strongest military in the world attacked farmers and townspeople formed as militia in Concord. One year, 3 months, and 25,000 american casualties later, we would begin forming a government based on limited powers and individual liberties.
It's your constitution. They died for it. Read it. Know it.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution ... rview.html
http://LibertyMinnesota.com
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craig101
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:25 pm |
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yeah my rep. carried this bill last year. it didn't go anywhere.
apparently, a gang banger got busted with a SBS a couple years ago and he couldn't get added to this offender list since possessing an unregistered SBS wasn't an offense that could get him on this offender list.
i'm not worried about this bill.
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1911fan
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 11:47 pm |
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On time out |
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Law of unitended consequences. They are already breaking several laws when they get arrested with a SBS or MG. No new gun laws until they clean up what they got.
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Andrew Rothman
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:54 am |
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Mosin
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:45 am |
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Interesting how quickly it is being heard in committee and only 2 authors...
_________________ April 19, 1775 the strongest military in the world attacked farmers and townspeople formed as militia in Concord. One year, 3 months, and 25,000 american casualties later, we would begin forming a government based on limited powers and individual liberties.
It's your constitution. They died for it. Read it. Know it.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution ... rview.html
http://LibertyMinnesota.com
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