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Dee
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Post subject: no comment Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:56 pm |
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Joined: Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:39 pm Posts: 533 Location: Mankato Area
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A poster from Minnesota posted this in THR.us: Quote: Quote: Gang members with badges protecting their own? Absolutely uncalled for Best reason I can come up with. I did put a question mark at the end hoping for a better answer. But based on the info avail. it seems likely that this mentality DOES exist in this case. Also, had you or I acted in this manner, we would be in jail. After all, a slip and fall COULD kill you but do you shoot the mop boy? Getting hit with a bottle DOES NOT justify a shooting. Being beaten unconscious doesn't even classify as a threat to your life. At least not in my state..... __________________ Here is the original thread: http://thehighroad.us/showthread.php?t=410879Then a few posts later: Quote: Quote: Your understanding of the law regarding self-defense appears to be a bit faulty. Perhaps. That's just what we were taught in my cc class.
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CraigJS
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Post subject: Re: no comment Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 6:58 am |
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Joined: Sun Apr 02, 2006 1:06 pm Posts: 293 Location: White Bear Lake
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So when does a person decide that they are just being beaten unconscious and not beaten to death ?
_________________ GSG-5, Beretta Mdl 71 (.22), XD9SC, 22/45 Ruger
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johngagemn
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Post subject: Re: no comment Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:27 pm |
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Joined: Thu Aug 11, 2005 9:28 am Posts: 84 Location: Hoodbury, MN aka: The Wood
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IIRC the MN standard is that you must be in reasonable fear of death or great bodily harm.
_________________ Charter Member, Red Knights MC - MN 4
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CraigJS
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Post subject: Re: no comment Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:06 pm |
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Joined: Sun Apr 02, 2006 1:06 pm Posts: 293 Location: White Bear Lake
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I know...
_________________ GSG-5, Beretta Mdl 71 (.22), XD9SC, 22/45 Ruger
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kimberman
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Post subject: Re: no comment Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:41 pm |
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Joined: Thu Aug 11, 2005 7:48 pm Posts: 2782 Location: St. Paul
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Good shooting. A beer bottle IS a dangerous weapon.
It's the POTENTIAL for harm sufficient to cause great bodily harm or death that authorizes the victim to respond with sufficient force to "neutralize" -- great police terminology -- (i.e., completely terminate) the threat. Once their attack crosses the line, you can use all the force necessary to permanently end the threat. You don't have to pussy foot around in the "face of an upturned knife" (per some famous US Supreme Court Justice) or and other weapon CAPABLE of causing GBH or death once the attack is imminent.
_________________ President of AACFI, GOCRA, CCRN, and A2A
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