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3Crowns
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Post subject: 1911 help! Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:55 pm |
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I am currently in the market for a 1911. Share you stories, preferences, opinions etc. All the research I have done has done nothing but make the final choice harder.
_________________ One shot, one kill... The rest of the mag is just for pleasure.
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mrokern
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Post subject: Re: 1911 help! Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:46 pm |
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Heh heh. Let's start with two basic questions: 1) What are you going to use it for (carry, competition (and if this, which one), target...)? 2) How much do you want to spend? That's the blessing and curse. You can get into a decent run of the mill one for $600-$700 new, no problem. Then again, you can drop thousands.... -Mark
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Hunter07
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Post subject: Re: 1911 help! Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:00 pm |
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Ugh! Decisions like this are the worst. My criteria that I used when looking for my 1911A1 was (in order of importance); 1. Dependability 2. Warranty 3. Customer Service 4. Turn around times (if I should have to send it in for repairs) 5. Price The base models of Springfield Armory's "GI" and "Mil-Spec" models give you the best of just about everything, including lower purchase cost. Read my signature below.
_________________ The only downfall to a 1911A1, is actually a plus: You can have it your way, and can put an unreal amount of money into em'.
Squeeze trigger, BANG, repeat. Kind of boring, but I never cared for drama.
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3Crowns
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Post subject: Re: 1911 help! Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:34 pm |
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mrokern wrote: Heh heh. Let's start with two basic questions: 1) What are you going to use it for (carry, competition (and if this, which one), target...)? 2) How much do you want to spend? That's the blessing and curse. You can get into a decent run of the mill one for $600-$700 new, no problem. Then again, you can drop thousands.... -Mark The main use of the firearm would be hobby and or competition at the later date, I would probably never carry it, but once I am a sworn officer there is a chance of it being my duty gun as well. I just want the best gun for my dollar so the cost is also still up in the air.
_________________ One shot, one kill... The rest of the mag is just for pleasure.
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bstrawse
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Post subject: Re: 1911 help! Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:54 pm |
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I have owned (and currently own) several -- a brief bit of commentary.
Springfield Mil-Spec - Own one, parkerized. - I'm at around 400 rounds. Not a single malfunction. - If I was going to carry this regularly, I'd add night sights. - Using Wilson Combat Magazines - It's a bit heavy for a non-LEO carry weapon
Kimber Custom CDP II (5") - Own one, bought used - Several FTF / FTRB issues when first got it. Wound up replacing/tuning the extractor, putting in Wolff extra-power springs - Since then, no issues - at around 1200 rounds myself. - Using Wilson Combat Magazines - Nice weight for a carry weapon.
Kimber Ultra CDP II (3") - Own one, bought new - Couple FTF issues during break-in period. not unexpected. - Since 500 rounds through the tube, no issues (this is the Kimber breakin period) - Using Wilson Combat Magazines - Very nice weight for a carry weapon. - No accuracy problems with shorter barrel
If I was looking for a possible duty weapon as a law enforcement officer, I'd probably look at the Springfields -- but a couple steps up from the Mil-Spec line just to get the default night sights, etc. I have alot of respect for the Wilson Combat and Nighthawk lines - but they're twice as much as something comparable from Wilson.
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_________________ NRA Life Member | NRA & MADFI Instructor | NRA Chief Range Safety Officer | Blog | Twitter | Facebook My views are my own - they may or may not reflect those of my employer.
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jaysong
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Post subject: Re: 1911 help! Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:56 pm |
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I would definately give fusion a look. http://www.fusionfirearms.com/ Mine should be done in a couple of weeks. Long wait but may be the best value for the dollars spent. I carry a Wilson Professional everyday and like that one a lot also but the I did not care for the price so I waited and bought used one. Good luck in your search. Be warned the 1911's can be addictive and multiply quickly for some folks.
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Hunter07
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Post subject: Re: 1911 help! Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:11 pm |
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_________________ The only downfall to a 1911A1, is actually a plus: You can have it your way, and can put an unreal amount of money into em'.
Squeeze trigger, BANG, repeat. Kind of boring, but I never cared for drama.
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cobb
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Post subject: Re: 1911 help! Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 6:36 am |
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I really like my Baers, but more than some would like to spend.
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3Crowns
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Post subject: Re: 1911 help! Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:20 pm |
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jaysong wrote: Be warned the 1911's can be addictive and multiply quickly for some folks. And that's what I was afraid of... Good thing I don't have a wife to argue with my wallet... bstrawse wrote: If I was looking for a possible duty weapon as a law enforcement officer, I'd probably look at the Springfields -- but a couple steps up from the Mil-Spec line just to get the default night sights, etc. B
Are the mil-Spec models a good base to start off of?
_________________ One shot, one kill... The rest of the mag is just for pleasure.
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DeanC
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Post subject: Re: 1911 help! Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 7:23 pm |
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Sounds like you should rent a few. Or wait for Bill's Shooter's Show next month and shoot a bunch for free.
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mmcnx2
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Post subject: Re: 1911 help! Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 8:33 pm |
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Or I could suggest a 1911 day at one of the indoor ranges and we could all have achance to show off our various versions. I;ve got a 45, 40, 9mm and 38super folks could test drive.
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Hunter07
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Post subject: Re: 1911 help! Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 8:59 am |
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3Crowns wrote: Are the mil-Spec models a good base to start off of? Yes they are. While they're made using mil-spec tolerances and standards, they do come with several improvements over the "GI" model. A couple improvements I can think of are; Front and rear sights are a little taller than the "GI" model. Ejection port is lowered and flared.
_________________ The only downfall to a 1911A1, is actually a plus: You can have it your way, and can put an unreal amount of money into em'.
Squeeze trigger, BANG, repeat. Kind of boring, but I never cared for drama.
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bstrawse
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Post subject: Re: 1911 help! Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 9:24 am |
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Here's a quick comparison.
WWII GI Model: small ejection port low profile GI sights lanyard loop on mainspring housing vertical cocking serrations on slide
Mil-Spec: stainless barrel and bushing loaded chamber indicator lowered and flared ejection port high profile 3-dot sights beveled magazine well angled cocking serrations on slide
I would probably not buy a GI model -- but I like my Springfield Mil-Spec very much.
_________________ NRA Life Member | NRA & MADFI Instructor | NRA Chief Range Safety Officer | Blog | Twitter | Facebook My views are my own - they may or may not reflect those of my employer.
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3Crowns
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Post subject: Re: 1911 help! Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 10:48 am |
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DeanC wrote: Or wait for Bill's Shooter's Show next month and shoot a bunch for free. I did not know about that. Where can I find more info about that?
_________________ One shot, one kill... The rest of the mag is just for pleasure.
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ScottM
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Post subject: Re: 1911 help! Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 2:20 pm |
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I have had a couple old military Colts that got fiddled with by a friend in the eighties, a new late eighties series 70 Colt, a couple parts guns (one of which I still have that's getting closer to reliable slowly) a Springfield Stainless Loaded and my Kimber Carry II. I have liked the Kimber and Springfield the best. Both have devoured several thousand rounds with no failures after the initial break in period. Both are more accurate than I am and will easily hold an 1 1/2 groups at 25 yards. The current parts gun shoots more of a pattern than a group, I can keep the rounds on a pie plate at 25 yards but that's about it which come to think of it will work okay for a defensive gun but I wouldn't want to shoot a match of any sort with it. One thing to be concerned about is a 1911 trigger ruins you for most DA/SA guns IMHO.
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